Comments on: Coping with Frame Rate Limitations https://combovid.com/?p=4257 Street Fighter Combos, Tutorials, Matches, Screenshots, and Strategy Guides Sat, 12 Mar 2011 18:45:12 +0000 hourly 1 By: Ryukenden https://combovid.com/?p=4257#comment-1679 Sat, 12 Mar 2011 18:45:12 +0000 https://combovid.com/?p=4257#comment-1679 With avisource(“yourclip.avi”) it saves it uncompressed, so VirtualDub is fine. It doesn’t matter now, I’ve already made the video.

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By: Dammit https://combovid.com/?p=4257#comment-1678 Sat, 12 Mar 2011 02:31:38 +0000 https://combovid.com/?p=4257#comment-1678 In reply to Ryukenden.

To just interleave and nothing else, try this:
clip = avisource("yourclip.avi")
even = selecteven(clip).selectodd
odd = selectodd(clip).selectodd
interleave(even, odd)

There’s definitely some antialias filtering applied to the second shot. Try processing this, which doesn’t apply any filters:
avisource("yourclip.avi")
If it still looks antialiased, there’s might be some problem with virtualdub’s settings.

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By: Ryukenden https://combovid.com/?p=4257#comment-1677 Fri, 11 Mar 2011 08:15:36 +0000 https://combovid.com/?p=4257#comment-1677 I mean it’s actually lower quality. I open avs file with Vdub, check direct stream copy, go to Save as AVI and these are results:

Original video: http://img707.imageshack.us/img707/8319/uncompressed.png

Interleaved: http://img860.imageshack.us/img860/3039/interleaved.png

Not only it cuts beginning of video a bit, it also lowers quality. Also, how do I not fade to black with that script?

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By: Dammit https://combovid.com/?p=4257#comment-1676 Fri, 11 Mar 2011 02:11:23 +0000 https://combovid.com/?p=4257#comment-1676 In reply to Ryukenden.

The specifics depend on your software but you can apply any filter and tell it to output the result without compression. For example with avisynth + virtualdub, you load the avs file and set it to “direct stream copy” in the video menu.

Of course you are losing half the frames so it’s compressed in that sense.

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By: Ryukenden https://combovid.com/?p=4257#comment-1675 Thu, 10 Mar 2011 15:53:52 +0000 https://combovid.com/?p=4257#comment-1675 Interleaved definitely looks better. Can I apply it without compressing the video clip?

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By: Dammit https://combovid.com/?p=4257#comment-1674 Sat, 05 Mar 2011 02:54:47 +0000 https://combovid.com/?p=4257#comment-1674 In reply to Ryukenden.

If it looks OK cut down to 30 you shouldn’t need to do anything. New games with their 3D graphics don’t generally rely on framerate gimmicks like flickering.

If 30 fps takes away something important, try merging and interleaving and decide which one looks best. If it makes something else screwy, like the renda punches and kicks, you can apply the filter only to the appropriate parts of the clip and apply a flat half rate to the other parts.

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By: Ryukenden https://combovid.com/?p=4257#comment-1673 Fri, 04 Mar 2011 12:43:34 +0000 https://combovid.com/?p=4257#comment-1673 So, which one of these methods would you guys recommend?

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By: Maj https://combovid.com/?p=4257#comment-1672 Wed, 16 Feb 2011 20:40:18 +0000 https://combovid.com/?p=4257#comment-1672 Yup, SF3 Genei Jin has the same flickering issue. These solutions will help.

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By: Fireball https://combovid.com/?p=4257#comment-1671 Tue, 15 Feb 2011 18:41:34 +0000 https://combovid.com/?p=4257#comment-1671 This has been a ridiculously insightful article. Great read.

One question though, is this problem also responsible for things like SFIII Yun’s Genei Jin shadows not appearing? Or is that a separate frustrating problem? :D

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By: Maj https://combovid.com/?p=4257#comment-1670 Mon, 14 Feb 2011 07:53:02 +0000 https://combovid.com/?p=4257#comment-1670 Yeah it’s pretty lame. But just to be clear, frame blending / merging is different from interlacing. I have an interlaced video on u2b and it looks awful at 480p.

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